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Isthe shadow detail the same?  If it is and you want more contrast in yournegs, it&apos;s a simple matter to increase development a bit.  (We tread closeto the Zone System here.)I found that TMax negs would produce more shadow detail in prints than Ithought there would be, looking at the negative.  Remember, it is theprint we work for, you don&apos;t frame the negative.I bargained for over two years before buying a Medalist II in Kathmandu.Great camera; I was an idiot to sell it.Peace,&lt;br&gt;Joe</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a421</guid>			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2003 18:49:28 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a420</link>			<description>From: &quot;Frank Vincent&quot; &lt;hollidaypr@hotmail.com&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003  12:47:05  PM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: ZS: Re: FIlm Developers-HC110&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;The negatives look funny, but seem to print well enough.  The overall contrast seems good, but the highlights seem a little light on the film.I am using a Medalist 6x9 with roll film, a gossen luna-pro SBC, and a Beseler 23C condenser enlarger.  I have not tried the zone system with this camera yet, because I was trying to get a basic time and temp chart for a base line.  I am trying HC110 with no agitation at 75 degrees for 10 minutes, per the followingweb site: &lt;a href=&quot;http://teachnet.edb.utexas.edu/~leica/hc110.html&quot;&gt;http://teachnet.edb.utexas.edu/~leica/hc110.html&lt;/a&gt;Using TMAX developer, with all recommended agitation and temperature, I get more contrasty negatives.  I am still working on this problem, so I don&apos;t quite know how to proceed.Frank</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a420</guid>			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2003 17:56:02 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a418</link>			<description>From: &quot;agiyo&quot; &lt;br&gt;Date: Fri Mar 14, 2003  10:06:12  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Film Developer&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Yes, I&apos;ve used HC-110B very successfully.  What sort of problems are you  having?Peace.&lt;br&gt;Joe </description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a418</guid>			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2003 15:21:19 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a416</link>			<description>From: &quot;Frank Vincent&quot; &lt;br&gt;Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003  4:39:29  PM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Film Developer&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Does anyone use HC-110 for tmax films?  I have tried, but seem to have trouble.  TMAX developer always works.  I don&apos;t know why.Frank Vincent</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/14.html#a416</guid>			<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2003 05:38:53 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a415</link>			<description>From: &quot;agiyo&quot; &lt;br&gt;Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003  9:45:17  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re- Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I too use Forte or  Ilford warm tone papers for portraits. I like the waythey split tone, giving the portraits an added depth and  sparkle.Peace.&lt;br&gt;Joe Cantrell</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a415</guid>			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:34:27 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a414</link>			<description>From: &quot;Rev. Sidney Flack&quot;&lt;br&gt;Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003  9:47:57  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: ZS: Re: Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;Paul,Thanks for the reply.  I have a couple follow up questions.  Whatsafelight  and filter are you using and what wattage bulb?  Have you hadany disappointment in the Dmax of Fort&amp;eacute; papers?I have used the Fort&amp;eacute; Polywarmtone Plus with selectol soft and toned inSelenium 1:21 and liked the results.  It has been suggested as areplacement for Agfa Record Rapid (formerly Insignia).Peace!&lt;br&gt;Sidney--&lt;br&gt;God said, Let there be light!Divine Light: Photography by Rev. Sidney Flack2507 E. 2nd StreetTulsa, OK   74104-1903&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&quot;&gt;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a414</guid>			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:32:01 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a413</link>			<description>From: &quot;paul vandepitte&quot; &lt;paulvandepitte@hotmail.com&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: Thu Mar 13, 2003  1:33:10  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re; ZS: Re: Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;fot portraits and nudes I prefer the warm tone, for landscapes a &apos;slight&apos; warm tone is OK. I prefer the Fort&amp;eacute;-papers because they are so flexible in the highlight part of the tone scale. they are however very sensitive to darkroom light, i had to install dimmers on my dark room light and use very strongly dimmed light!Paul Vandepitte&lt;br&gt;Martelarenlaan 187&lt;br&gt;3010 Kessel-Lo&lt;br&gt;Belgium&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://surf.to/pvdp&quot;&gt;http://surf.to/pvdp&lt;/a&gt;</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/13.html#a413</guid>			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2003 14:35:42 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a411</link>			<description>From: &quot;Rev. Sidney Flack&quot; &lt;br&gt;Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003  9:48:31  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: ZS: Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;All right, gentlemen.  Thanks for the reply.Now, what are the characteristics you like about those papers?  What isit about them that match them to your subjects?  What are thosesubjects?Or is it just that these are what you can get?Peace!&lt;br&gt;Sidney--&lt;br&gt;God said, Let there be light!Divine Light: Photography by Rev. Sidney Flack2507 E. 2nd StreetTulsa, OK   74104-1903&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&quot;&gt;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a411</guid>			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 15:30:17 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a409</link>			<description>From: &quot;paul vandepitte&quot; &lt;paulvandepitte@hotmail.com&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: Wed Mar 12, 2003  2:06:18  AM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: ZS: Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I love the Fort&amp;eacute; papers very much. It may sound strange: but I use the Fort&amp;eacute; Cooltone in combination with Agfa Neutol Warmtone developer and toned in a self brewed selenium toner.  Also the Fort&amp;eacute; Warmtone papers (14 and 17) are quite attractive for portraiture...SincerelyPaul Vandepitte&lt;br&gt;Martelarenlaan 187&lt;br&gt;3010 Kessel-Lo&lt;br&gt;Belgium</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a409</guid>			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:04:52 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a408</link>			<description>From: &quot;Gilbert Dumont&quot; &lt;argentic@saturnus.nl&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003  7:24:29  PM US/Eastern&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: Graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;I would like to use Ilford Galerie. But in my part of the world (Holland) Icannot get it anywhere.Gilbert</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a408</guid>			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:46:29 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a407</link>			<description>From: &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Gphoto2@aol.com&quot;&gt;Gphoto2@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Date: Tue Mar 11, 2003  7:22:39  PM US/EasternSidney,My personal perference are Afga Classic , Forte, OrientalRegards,&lt;br&gt;Paul</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a407</guid>			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:36:18 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		<item>			<link>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a406</link>			<description>From: &quot;Rev. Sidney Flack&quot;&lt;br&gt;Subject: graded papers&lt;br clear=&quot;left&quot;&gt;What FB graded paper(s) is everyone using?  I decided to do someshopping around and suddenly find that there is little to choose from.It&apos;s a good thing the VC papers have improved in quality in recentyears.Peace!&lt;br&gt;Sidney&lt;br&gt;--God said, Let there be light!Divine Light: Photography by Rev. Sidney Flack2507 E. 2nd StreetTulsa, OK   74104-1903&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&quot;&gt;http://www.divinelightphotography.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>			<guid>http://photography.cicada.com/zs/listserv/2003/03/12.html#a406</guid>			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2003 10:31:22 GMT</pubDate>			</item>		</channel>	</rss>